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GeForce 9800 GTX+

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Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:50 am
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Does anyone have or can give me a complete unbias review of a GeForce 9800 GTX+ video graphics card?  BigBangTheory has convinced me, thats the card I ought to go with, so I took his advice & purchased one.  It should be on its way here within the next few days or so.  But was wondering if anyone owned one and could let me know how satisfied or unsatisfied you are with it.  

Thanks,
Chris (HellBound)
Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:58 pm
Site Owner
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you did confirm that your PS had 2
6 pin PCI-E connectors on it??

Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:22 pm
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I forgot to ask you about the psu when I called.  Blondie was saying to get with you, because the psu only has 1x 6-pin connection that is not labeled.  He said something if it wasn't labeled, then its possible that the wiring could be reversed and end up shorting out the psu or video card.  I looked up the psu online and that 1x 6-pin is, in fact designated for PCI-E connection.  And the card that I ordered comes with a 6-pin to molex connection adapter.  Sooo, I should be okay, right???
Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:32 pm
Game Server Admin
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No first hand knowledge (I can't even run the 8400 GS in my closet  Laughing ), but that's supposed to be quite a good "bang for buck" card, especially if you want to muck around with overclocking.  There seems to be more than one outfit that manufactures this card, and there is some concern with certain instances about the card's size.  The name did ring a bell, so when I first read this thread, I started looking through back issues of old PC mags I have laying around.  One mag used the card to do a mod on a mid-tower, and claim they were only a few mm away from having to buy a new case.  I read that and I'm thinking "What?  You guys are the pros and you've never had to put a hole in a case to accomodate an oversized option?"  Laughing

BBT, about those 6 pin connectors, if Chris had to,  he could use an adapter, no?  I seem to recall some cables that have breakaways for the 2 pins.  How about the 4th one here:

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g11/c28/s427/list/p1/Power_Supplies-Computer_PSU_Accessories-PCI_Express_Adapters-Page1.html
 
If that doesn't work, we'll get the wire snippers, sodering iron, some extra wire & ends and rip that PSU out and do some major surgery.  What do you say Chris?  Razz  Laughing

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Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:55 pm
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Umm...  i was think more along the lines of just buying a new psu, if necessary.  But I don't think that'll really be a problem....   Wink
Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:21 pm
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yeah if he has 1 6 pin pci-e connector, the card will come with an adaptor that uses 2
4 pin molex and gives you a single pci-e 6 pin

so that might be OK, however if he can find something like at least a 650W or higher with good specs.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276573&csid=_21
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3438607&CatId=2036
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276567
this would be a good thing and would not be too close to the edge
some folks might even need to go slightly higher if  runing large hard drives, multiple cd roms, lots of memory, lots of fans

Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:15 pm
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GeForce 9800 GTX+ = Minimum Recommended System Power (Watt) = 450  Watt

I currently am running 550 Watts.  I ought to be okay with this, no?  I mean, i've only got a 250Gb hard-drive, rarely use my CD/DVD-RW combo drive (other than to just install software).  I don't have any other fans other than what came factory (CPU) and only running 4Gb of memory.
Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:18 pm
Captain
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i ran a 9800 gtx+ for close to 2 years and really have no complaints. i could run cod4, codw@w, mw2, bfbc2 all at max settings @ 1920 x 1080 res., crysis was a bit hard on the card at max settings tho--but that game is notoriously hard on gpu's. it did run a bit hot also, i would recommend adding a fan or 2 if you havnt already and if you have room--i was running 1 120mm fan, 2 90mm fans. im not sure about your pwr supply, i know the connection your talking about should work with the adapter, but this is a power hungry card--how many watts is your current pwr supply? (fyi--i am only running 650w power supply with all those fans, a fatality pro sound card, 2 hard drives, dvdrom, and a card reader with no probs). i had a few issues running that card with win7 64bit, but the most recent driver cleared most of that up so make sure you double check to make sure you have the most current driver after install--obviously.  :D

good luck with it...hope you like it Very Happy

Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:21 pm
Captain
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lol--you answered my question about your pwr supply while i was typing my previous post. i assume 550 would work, but that seems awful close to me...i would talk to bang about that.

Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:06 am
Game Server Admin
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— HellBound @ Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:15 pm
GeForce 9800 GTX+ = Minimum Recommended System Power (Watt) = 450  Watt

I currently am running 550 Watts.  I ought to be okay with this, no?  I mean, i've only got a 250Gb hard-drive, rarely use my CD/DVD-RW combo drive (other than to just install software).  I don't have any other fans other than what came factory (CPU) and only running 4Gb of memory.


Only using the stock fan?  Better not try any overclocking tricks then.  And, just in case, I'd have some cutting tools ready for when the new gfx card arrives.  Laughing

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Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:17 pm
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Well, the card itself, will also have a fan...
Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:29 pm
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Class: Priority Mail®
Service(s): Delivery Confirmation™
Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received

Can anyone tell me what this means:

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on August 09, 2010 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later.
Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:58 pm
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— HellBound @ Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:29 am
Class: Priority Mail®
Service(s): Delivery Confirmation™
Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received

Can anyone tell me what this means:

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on August 09, 2010 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later.


The shipper used the USPS online service, so at the time you saw this, it was entered and a pickup scheduled, but not necessarily picked up yet.  That delivery confirmation means someone over 18 will have to sign for the package.  The rest of the bad news is that sometimes you won't see an update until delivery.  Sometimes, sometimes, you see an update for pickup.  You probably aren't going to be able to see the package moving as you would with UPS.  Check again tomorrow or later tonight and see if there was a pickup or hub scan.  If the status is the same tomorrow, it's hard to say.  Did you receive a shipping notification from the shipper?  If you did, or you see another scan on USPS, start counting your 3-5 days from there.  Those are business days too, I believe, so I'd give it a week before worrying about it.

The rest of the bad news is that many of these places that do a large volume of shipping via USPS have a regular daily pickup, so really the vendor you are dealing with could enter that information into the system even if they didn't have the product yet and then ship it later when the product came in, or even worse it's being drop shipped and the vendor you are dealing with isn't even really sure if their vendor has the product in stock or not.

You definitely want to look for a shipping confirmation from the vendor you bought the product from, and start counting your 3-5 business days from then.

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Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:19 pm
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Well well.... aren't you just the bearer of not-so-good news today, Bittersweet....  Like a soggy towel on a wet rainy day, sort of speak.  lol....  just messing with ya...  Actually, I called USPS today and they said they package is actually scheduled to be delivered tomorrow.  The shipper does have a delivery notification and sent the package Priority Mail, which is usually received within 2-3 days.  Sooo, we'll see if I get it tomorrow.  If not, then most probably on Thursday.  I was counting on Thursday in the first place, so it wouldn't be too disappointing.  But i'll still hope for the best-case scenario anyways...    Very Happy
Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:20 pm
Game Server Admin
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— HellBound @ Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:19 pm
Well well.... aren't you just the bearer of not-so-good news today, Bittersweet....  Like a soggy towel on a wet rainy day, sort of speak.  lol....  just messing with ya...  Actually, I called USPS today and they said they package is actually scheduled to be delivered tomorrow.  The shipper does have a delivery notification and sent the package Priority Mail, which is usually received within 2-3 days.  Sooo, we'll see if I get it tomorrow.  If not, then most probably on Thursday.  I was counting on Thursday in the first place, so it wouldn't be too disappointing.  But i'll still hope for the best-case scenario anyways...    Very Happy


I'm back to doing shipping for a living now, so I know something about it.  USPS does have the worst on-time delivery of all the carriers, that's why they are so cheap.  If I remember correctly, you live in a metro area, which is a plus.  It really depends on where it was mailed from, which you might not be able to determine.  I hope you get it Thursday, Friday is a safer bet.  I'm not a pessimist my friend, just a realist Very Happy

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